Law Firm Valuation Process and Considerations

By Katherine A. Puffer, CPA/ABV, CPCU, MBA

Even if you’re not in the market to sell your law firm, there are several reasons to value your firm such as a possible firm merger, securing loan financing, the addition of new partners, and other business and personal matters such as your succession/exit strategy. It is not only important to know the value of your firm, but also the process analysts take to come to an estimated value. Several valuation approaches are used, and depending on your firm’s circumstances, valuation analysts may use a combination of the income, asset, and market approaches to estimate the value of the firm. 

The Valuation Process: 

To begin, the asset approach presumes that the value of the firm is best determined by the sum of the value of all the firm’s tangible assets subtracted by the liabilities, leaving the net value of its tangible assets (“net tangible assets”). Many firms maintain financial records using cash-based accounting, thus for valuation purposes, their cash-based financials are adjusted to accrual-based financials. For example, accounts receivable, work-in-progress and accounts payable are added to the cash basis balance sheet to arrive at an accrual basis balance sheet. The next step in an asset-based valuation is to adjust the accounting asset values to their market value. For example, fixed assets such as computer equipment are adjusted to their estimated market value (likely close to zero). Asset-based valuations generally do not contain “goodwill” which is the value of a firm over and above the value of its net tangible assets. As a result, the asset approach is generally used to estimate value of real estate entities, holding companies and unprofitable firms. For profitable firms, it provides a minimum value for analysts to consider. 

The income approach values a firm based on cash that can be distributed to partners (“free cash flow”, “cash flow”). Free cash flow is not net income and for growing companies it is generally less than net income. Free cash flow takes into consideration the amount of income that must be held in the firm to fund accounts receivable, work-in-progress, purchases of equipment and other capital needs. For S corporations and LLC’s, distributions to owners to pay taxes are also deducted from net income to arrive at free cash flow. There are a number of methodologies that the valuation analyst can use under the income approach. The methodology chosen depends on whether future free cash flow is expected to grow steadily, vary from year to year or can be estimated based on prior year’s results. After future free cash flow is estimated or forecasted, it is discounted back to the valuation date based on the valuation analyst’s assessment of the risk of achieving future cash flows. For example, a lack of a firm succession plan adds to the risk of achieving future cash flows, increases the discount rate and results in decreased estimated value. Conversely, the existence of a repeating income stream generally reduces risk and the discount rate, resulting in increased estimated value. The final step in the income approach is to subtract firm debt. The income approach arguably provides the most theoretically accurate estimated value for a firm as it is based on the actual firm characteristics and results. 2 

However, the accuracy of this approach is dependent on estimates of future free cash flow and the discount rate. 

Finally, the market approach involves researching the sales of other law firms and utilizing information on the sale of firms with operating and financial characteristics similar to the subject firm to arrive at an estimated value. At a minimum, seven to ten comparable sales are needed to utilize this approach. Information provided on the sale of law practices and the nature of the practices involved is sometimes too incomplete to provide a basis for calculating a value indication. 

Other Considerations: 

Many law practices have buy-sell agreements in place to avoid fighting over value in the event that a buy-out must occur. Many of these agreements contain formulas that have nothing to do with the economic reality of the situation. This frequently causes fights among the owners. In certain jurisdictions, these types of agreements will not be considered indicative of value for a marital dissolution case. 

In a law practice, there tends to be much more dependence on the professional than in other types of businesses. During the valuation process, the attributes of the professional(s) must be considered. Unusual skills, long work hours, a large referral base, and other similar factors will certainly affect the valuation, whether it ends up as a part of reasonable compensation or built into the discount or capitalization rate. 

Probably one of the most difficult assets to value on the balance sheet of a law practice is work in progress. Unless the firm keeps really good records, this can be pretty tricky. This is particularly true for a contingent fee law firm.1 

When a professional practice is being valued for transaction or litigation purposes, it may be important to identify professional and practice goodwill separately and to discuss the likelihood that a portion of the professional goodwill can be transferred in a transaction. 

Consistently high earnings do not necessarily indicate a high practice value for a number of reasons. If earnings are highly volatile, as they can be for a law firm with large contingent-fee cases, value tends to be lower based on the risk of achieving future estimated cash flows. A professional with an outstanding reputation may attract many referrals, but the resulting high earnings in the practice reflect professional goodwill, not practice goodwill. A professional may work much longer than normal hours, but the resulting high earnings may not increase the value of the practice.2 

While, rules of thumb (formulaic: expressed in multiples of revenue or earnings) may provide insight on the value of a professional practice, it is usually only appropriate to use them for reasonableness tests of other valuation approaches. 

 

For more information contact:

Katherine A. Puffer, CPA/ABV, CPCU, MBA
312-235-2866 (O)
847-477-1954 (M) [email protected]

 

1 Understanding Business Valuation, Fourth Edition, Gary R. Trugman, Copyright 2012
2 Financial Valuation, Second Edition, James R. Hitcher, Copyright 2006

 

Sources:

https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/strategic-planning/890134/what39s-your-firm-worth- understanding-law-firm-valuations https://www.olmsteadassoc.com/resource-center/law-firm-succession-exit-strategies-valuing-the- firm/

http://www.firmvaluation.net/asset-based-valuation-methods.html https://articles.bplans.com/rules-of-thumb-business-valuation-explained/ https://www.uschamber.com/co/good-company/ask-the-board/how-to-prepare-your-business-for- sale

Understanding Business Valuation, Fourth Edition, Gary R. Trugman, Copyright 2012 Financial Valuation, Second Edition, James R. Hitcher, Copyright 2006

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Meet The Candidate Night with Special Guest Jesse White

Deidre Baumann for Cook County Judge (Punch 177)

Meet The Candidate Night with Special Guest Secretary of State Jesse White

Amata is proud to host our next Meet the Candidate Night with community member attorney Deidre Baumann on the ballot for Cook County Judge.

Running for public office is a very big undertaking and an act that deserves our time to listen and learn about the candidates. Attorney Deidre Baumann, a life-long Chicagoan and dedicated civil litigator in our community is running for Cook County Judge and will be on democratic primary ballot on June 28th. Deidre bring patience, compassion, experience and knowledge to the bench and asks for your support. She is endorsed by Secretary of State Jesse White, Congressman Danny K. Davis, Representative Omar Williams, Alderman Jason Irvin, Walter Burnett, Emma Mitts, Chris Taliafero, Roderick Sawyer, Cook County Commissioner Frank Aguilar, IVI-IPO, ChicagoNOW, Personal PAC, LGBTG IMPACT, Westside Voter’s Coalition PAC, and others.

Join us and special guest Secretary of State Jesse White

Date: Wednesday, June 22nd,
Time: 5 pm – 7 pm
Location: 180 N. LaSalle St., 37th Floor

The Stage is Set by Chase Hopkins

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Amata Socials Now Available For Amata Client Sponsorship

Thank you to everybody who came out to Amata’s return to in-person networking with Amata Socials! Our next get together is June 9th and will be held at 180 N LaSalle.

We are also excited to extend an opportunity – now you’ll be able to sponsor an Amata Social!

Sponsor an Amata Social

Each month we are providing up to two firms the opportunity to sponsor the social. Amata will continue to pay for food and beverages at these socials and the sponsors will be responsible for getting the word out and making sure they are well attended. In return for sponsoring, Amata will promote the sponsors firm in weekly posts, publications and announcements leading up to the social.

Up to 2 Law Firms will have the opportunity to sponsor each Amata social.

  • The sponsoring law firms will be responsible for attendance at the event. This will include sending out invitations and making sure each event is well attended (25+ participants at each event is the goal).
  • Amata will also promote each event through email distributions to all Amata clients, that will include the logo/name of the sponsoring law firm and signs at every Amata location.
  • Members of the sponsoring firm will greet guests upon their arrival and direct them as appropriate.
  • The sponsoring firm(s) will provide an overview of their firm and the type of work they are able to handle at the beginning of each social.

Amata’s Obligation

  • Amata will provide beverages (both alcohol and non-alcohol) and lite snacks at each social.
  • The sponsoring firms will be featured in Amata’s weekly watercooler email and featured on the flyers distributed at each Amata location.
    Amata will provide a list of all registered participants to the sponsoring firms to allow for follow up.
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Additional Considerations

  • Sponsorship will be on a first come, first serve basis by contacting [email protected]
  • Firms with the same practice areas will not be allowed to sponsor the same event.
  • Attendance by the sponsoring firms is mandatory.

Are you interested in sponsoring an Amata Social?

Reach out to [email protected] today! Each social has two spots and they will be filled on a first come first serve basis.

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Small Business Resilience Depends on Keeping a Focused Perspective

Small businesses are resilient, and resilience is especially important in challenging times such as these. This type of strength and agility relies, in part, on good business instincts. But it also depends on a clear understanding of the measures that may impact results.

Know The Context

Small Business Resilience Depends on Keeping a Focused Perspective

It’s important to consider data in the context of what your business does and where it is located. For example, the unemployment rate for a business located in an area that is experiencing a lot of growth means something different from what it does for an area that is experiencing a reduction in its population. Places with growth will have more people spending more money on a variety of goods and services. Areas that are stagnant are likely losing businesses as people are spending less and less.

The same is true for other data. Supply chain disruptions will be harder to deal with for small businesses than they will be for large companies because bigger businesses have the resources to pay for faster deliveries. Some business and service providers can get a snapshot of what is happening by looking at information specific to their industries.

Keep in mind that statistics have a subtext that may not be easily apparent. For example, are multisite businesses reporting their data for each location, or is it all on an aggregate basis? Questions like these are why it is important to put this information into a context that is meaningful to your business.

One way to do this is to think about the information in the framework of a SWOT analysis — strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats — for your service or industry. Then look at the analysis again through the filter of what is happening in your specific market. Doing so will allow you to have a clearer picture of your needs and where resources should be allocated.

Consider Inflation

Along with the other financial concerns that small businesses are facing, inflation has become a major factor. Predictions differ when it comes to how long the current inflationary cycle will last. Consequently, business owners need to assess how they will be affected by the higher cost of money in both the short term and the long run.

Taking these three steps can help:

  1. Budgeting: Cut costs — but in a thoughtful way. This should be your strategy when making any major purchases, from software to a new hire or anything in between. Understand what you really need as well as the costs of any bells and whistles. Maybe it is best to start with the basics now and then add on to your list of purchases as needed when your budget allows for it. For example, does it make more sense for your business to hire a freelancer who can maintain your company’s social media platforms, or is a full-time employee what you need instead? Writing out a job description and then comparing the costs of hiring each type of person should help you figure out the answer.
  2. Margins: Take a long, hard look at your margins. How much is every sale costing you? Is there a way to use new manufacturing methods or sales channels so that you can increase your margins?
  3. Financing: If you need help with financing, turn to government sources first. Low-cost funding may be available, for example, if your business is located in an economic development zone.

Putting the information that you gather into a meaningful context and following through on that consensus will help ensure that you are keeping a perspective that makes sense for your small business.

We’re here to help

At Amata, we value your work as much as you do. Discover how we can be a part of the future of your resilience.

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Patrick Carver: Law Firm Marketing Simplified | THE 1958 LAWYER Podcast

Patrick Carver is the Owner of Constellation Marketing, a digital marketing company that focuses on driving growth for law firms using web design, advertising and other tools. In this episode, Ron and Patrick talked about how you can take advantage of the many facets of digital marketing today.

Patrick shared how a law firm can attract clients by doing sustainable and organic practices like making articles that are tailored for the client you serve, by designing your website to have relevant information and by working on technical aspects such as google advertising, search engine optimization, backlinking and other strategies.

Key moments:

  • Key things to do for organic growth (7:38)
  • Backlinking and how it can help your website (11:27)
  • What is Google My Business? (28:20)
  • Other marketing channels that law firms should be considering (35:16)

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MEMORABLE QUOTES

Patrick Carver

“Take advantage of the digital real estate that’s out there that exists for attorneys.” – Patrick Carver

ABOUT PATRICK CARVER

Patrick Carver, Owner of Constellation Marketing

Digital Marketing for Law Firms

Patrick Carver is a Missouri native who has spent over a decade working in digital marketing. Before devoting his work full-time to Constellation Marketing, Patrick served as Digital Marketing Manager at Fortune 500 company DICK’S Sporting Goods. He has successful experience across a variety of industries and business sizes.

Patrick received his B.S. in political science from Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia. His long history of success is anchored by a strong work ethic and a creative problem-solving approach. In high school, he was an all-state soccer player, a national champion debater, president of the student body, and an entrepreneur. In college, he was a two-time first-team NSCAA all-American soccer player at Emory University as well as team captain and continued his entrepreneurial interests while maintaining a full-time academic load.

Now, as CEO of Constellation Marketing, Patrick leads a talented team of legal marketing professionals who work together to achieve a shared goal of driving growth at law firms. From web design to advertising, we have the skill, experience, and drive to build, manage, and maintain the entire spectrum of your digital marketing needs.

Connect with Patrick Carver:

Website: https://goconstellation.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickacarver/

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“The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” still defines the business of law…
It’s time for a change.

If you’re a lawyer, you’re familiar with the ABA article “The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” which gives our podcast its title, and its inspiration. That article was the start of the billable hour for law firms…And the last major change to the business of law, 70+ years ago now. Well, it’s past time for another change.

This podcast is all about bucking the status quo of the business of law. Your host Ron Bockstahler runs Amata Law Office Suites, providing law firms an alternative to the traditional fixed-cost business model that places unwanted stress on attorneys to work long hours that often-times lead to burn out, broken relationships and in many cases substance abuse. Each week he’ll discuss alternatives to the 12 hours days, endless rotation of clerks and paralegals, and the expensive offices leased to impress clients who rarely show up in person anymore. He’ll interview successful lawyers who are doing law differently, and finding a work-life balance while still running a successful firm.

Do you want to find a better way to run your law firm? It’s time for the next big change in the business of law, and you’ll get it here on The 1958 Lawyer.

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Mathew Dragatsis: The New Way to Scan and Search Legal Documents | THE 1958 LAWYER Podcast

Mathew Dragatsis is the CEO of Scan Search, the new way to manage and retrieve documents. In this episode, Matthew talks about what the most difficult part of file retrieval and document management is, and how Scan Search completely eliminates that problem by making it so that you’re able to retrieve a file just like how you’d search on Google. Type any word or phrase that you remember from that document and you’ll find it, it’s as easy as that.

Matthew and Ron talk about the the best business practices, how to keep your relationship with clients and how Matthew was able to adjust, transition, and evolve with the changes that were required of his company. He also talked about the future features of scan search such as email integration, highlighting, and many more.

Key moments:

  • The most difficult part in file retrieval (1:17)
  • Eliminating the problem of indexing (8:46)
  • Evolving with technology and maintaining client relationships (15:47)
  • Future quality of life features (23:52)

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MEMORABLE QUOTES

“If you’re not evolving exponentially with the technology that comes out, you’re gonna fall behind or you’re not gonna be able to capitalize on opportunities that are really out there for you.” – Mathew Dragatsis

Mathew Dragatsis

ABOUT MATHEW DRAGATSIS

Mathew Dragatsis, Scan Search 

Document Imaging

Mathew Dragatsis has been the Founder of Radiant Solutions Corporation and CEO of their new product, Scan Search. He has almost 30 years of experience in document imaging and has served many different kinds of organizations with their document imaging, management, and retrieval needs.

Website: www.scansearch.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-dragatsis-b218883/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ScanSearchDAM

Twitter: https://twitter.com/scansearch

Have comments, questions, or concerns? Contact us at [email protected]


“The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” still defines the business of law…
It’s time for a change.

If you’re a lawyer, you’re familiar with the ABA article “The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” which gives our podcast its title, and its inspiration. That article was the start of the billable hour for law firms…And the last major change to the business of law, 70+ years ago now. Well, it’s past time for another change.

This podcast is all about bucking the status quo of the business of law. Your host Ron Bockstahler runs Amata Law Office Suites, providing law firms an alternative to the traditional fixed-cost business model that places unwanted stress on attorneys to work long hours that often-times lead to burn out, broken relationships and in many cases substance abuse. Each week he’ll discuss alternatives to the 12 hours days, endless rotation of clerks and paralegals, and the expensive offices leased to impress clients who rarely show up in person anymore. He’ll interview successful lawyers who are doing law differently, and finding a work-life balance while still running a successful firm.

Do you want to find a better way to run your law firm? It’s time for the next big change in the business of law, and you’ll get it here on The 1958 Lawyer.

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Michael DeLon: How to Write a Book and Become an Authority in Your Field | THE 1958 LAWYER Podcast

Michael DeLon is the President in Paperback Expert, he is an author, speaker, marketing strategist and business growth coach for business owners and sharp, aggressive entrepreneurs looking to get to the next level in their business.

In this episode Michael talks about all the ways you can establish credibility, stand out, and convert leads by publishing a book. He uses three concepts: clarify, simplify, and multiply to harness a lawyer’s journey or life story to make a compelling story out of it which will then be the cornerstone of all their marketing strategies.

Key moments:

  • Telling your story (5:14)
  • Clarify. Simplify. Multiply. (6:53)
  • Your book as the centerpiece of your marketing (16:20)
  • Continuous leads, follow up, and more conversions (3:58)

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MEMORABLE QUOTES

“Everyone… has a story of why they’re doing what they do. Somewhere they made a decision of why they became a lawyer. Why? I wanna know that story. Weave that through the book because none of their competitors can fight that. Your message is what differentiates you.” – Paperback Expert

Michael Delon

ABOUT MICHAEL DELON

Michael DeLon, President of Paperback Expert

Department (Marketing Strategist and Business Growth Coach)

Michael is an author, speaker, marketing strategist and business growth coach for business owners and sharp, aggressive entrepreneurs looking to get to the next level in their business.

Michael is a native of Indiana and has lived near Little Rock, AR since 2004. His business background includes real estate, automotive, radio, internet, consulting and 10 years in family ministry.

Michael is a voracious learner … you’ll always find him with a book (or 2 or 3) and an audio series going on his iPhone or iPod. But more than learning, Michael loves applying, testing and perfecting marketing concepts that help his clients achieve more.

Michael and his wife reside near Little Rock, AR with their three children. They are deeply involved in The Bible Church of Little Rock.

Michael loves spending time with his family, traveling with friends and living life on the edge.

Website: https://paperbackexpert.com/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MichaelDeLon

Books: https://www.amazon.com/Michael-DeLon/e/B00J2794ZY%3F

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeldelon/

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“The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” still defines the business of law…
It’s time for a change.

If you’re a lawyer, you’re familiar with the ABA article “The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” which gives our podcast its title, and its inspiration. That article was the start of the billable hour for law firms…And the last major change to the business of law, 70+ years ago now. Well, it’s past time for another change.

This podcast is all about bucking the status quo of the business of law. Your host Ron Bockstahler runs Amata Law Office Suites, providing law firms an alternative to the traditional fixed-cost business model that places unwanted stress on attorneys to work long hours that often-times lead to burn out, broken relationships and in many cases substance abuse. Each week he’ll discuss alternatives to the 12 hours days, endless rotation of clerks and paralegals, and the expensive offices leased to impress clients who rarely show up in person anymore. He’ll interview successful lawyers who are doing law differently, and finding a work-life balance while still running a successful firm.

Do you want to find a better way to run your law firm? It’s time for the next big change in the business of law, and you’ll get it here on The 1958 Lawyer.

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Melissa Costello: The Art of Storytelling | THE 1958 LAWYER Podcast

Melissa Costello is the creative lead and chief storyteller for MELISSACOSTELLO.COM’s video-centric take on branding and marketing. In this episode, she shares the value of telling stories in marketing and why marketing through video works for lawyers. They talk about how lawyers today need to start thinking differently about their business and embrace marketing.

The most important kind of marketing that is especially effective for law firms is using client testimonials. Melissa says that there’s no substitute for testimonial videos, story telling is the most engaging medium of communication and people will want to do business with you if you tell them your clients’ stories.

Key moments:

  • Marketing through storytelling (1:16)
  • How to create engaging marketing (7:50)
  • Different types of video (19:51)
  • Why video marketing works for lawyers (28:20)

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MEMORABLE QUOTES

Melissa Costello

“It is one of your greatest assets, the stories that your clients would be only too happy to tell – of how you changed their life, how you saved their business. Attorneys to a very large degree think that they provide a very intellectual product, and a legal product is anything but.” – Melissa Costello

ABOUT MELISSA COSTELLO

Melissa Costello, Creative Lead and Story Teller

Marketing

Melissa Costello is the creative lead and chief storyteller for MELISSACOSTELLO.COM’s video-centric take on branding and marketing. Telling stories and building brands that impact people’s businesses and people’s lives is her passion. Her upbringing engaged her in a lively mix of both the fine arts and the marketing arts, joint passions shared by numerous members of the extended family. It’s in the blood as is a restless curiosity. Costello has been awarded both domestic and international honors for the videos and television commercials she has produced for more than 30 years through her companies in Chicago and Los Angeles, and in collaboration with former political media consultant, David Axelrod for clients such as President Barack Obama and Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

Connect with Melissa Costello:

Website: https://melissacostello.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MelissaCostello.comChicago/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melissacostellochicago/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/melissacostello

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbZ8FHOYkCwD078T9dJgVYg/featured

Have comments, questions, or concerns? Contact us at [email protected]


“The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” still defines the business of law…
It’s time for a change.

If you’re a lawyer, you’re familiar with the ABA article “The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” which gives our podcast its title, and its inspiration. That article was the start of the billable hour for law firms…And the last major change to the business of law, 70+ years ago now. Well, it’s past time for another change.

This podcast is all about bucking the status quo of the business of law. Your host Ron Bockstahler runs Amata Law Office Suites, providing law firms an alternative to the traditional fixed-cost business model that places unwanted stress on attorneys to work long hours that often-times lead to burn out, broken relationships and in many cases substance abuse. Each week he’ll discuss alternatives to the 12 hours days, endless rotation of clerks and paralegals, and the expensive offices leased to impress clients who rarely show up in person anymore. He’ll interview successful lawyers who are doing law differently, and finding a work-life balance while still running a successful firm.

Do you want to find a better way to run your law firm? It’s time for the next big change in the business of law, and you’ll get it here on The 1958 Lawyer.

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Template To copy | THE 1958 LAWYER Podcast

In this episode, Stephen E. Seckler, Esq. talks about how lawyers should adopt marketing strategies that feel comfortable and how hiring a coach make a big difference in building a law practice. Steve also talks about how he coaches lawyers through career transitions.  He describes the work he is now doing with senior lawyers who are trying to decide what comes next. Steve is host of his own podcast, Counsel to Counsel. He is a lawyer who has dedicated his entire career to helping attorneys find more career satisfaction.

Key moments:

  • How young lawyers can overcome marketing challenges (3:52)
  • Marketing tips for all kinds of lawyers (15:18)
  • The importance of getting a coach and business development tips (27:44)
  • The next stage for seniors (36:54)

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MEMORABLE QUOTES

“Find a niche that you really like and enjoy, really go deep with that niche, you want to be known for something. When you’re a young lawyer, again, the focus really should be on being a great lawyer giving great client service.” – Stephen Seckler

ABOUT STEPHEN SECKLER

Stephen Seckler, President of Seckler Legal Recruiting and Coaching

Legal Recruiting and Coaching

Stephen Seckler is a lawyer with over 25 years with marketing and career counseling experience working with other attorneys. He hosts the Counsel to Counsel Podcast where he interviews leading attorneys and consultants about the legal profession and his blog Counsel to Counsel has been twice named to the ABA Journal’s Blawg 100.

Connect with Stephen Seckler:

Website: http://www.counseltocounsel.com/

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/stephenseckler

Have comments, questions, or concerns? Contact us at [email protected]


“The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” still defines the business of law…
It’s time for a change.

If you’re a lawyer, you’re familiar with the ABA article “The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” which gives our podcast its title, and its inspiration. That article was the start of the billable hour for law firms…And the last major change to the business of law, 70+ years ago now. Well, it’s past time for another change.

This podcast is all about bucking the status quo of the business of law. Your host Ron Bockstahler runs Amata Law Office Suites, providing law firms an alternative to the traditional fixed-cost business model that places unwanted stress on attorneys to work long hours that often-times lead to burn out, broken relationships and in many cases substance abuse. Each week he’ll discuss alternatives to the 12 hours days, endless rotation of clerks and paralegals, and the expensive offices leased to impress clients who rarely show up in person anymore. He’ll interview successful lawyers who are doing law differently, and finding a work-life balance while still running a successful firm.

Do you want to find a better way to run your law firm? It’s time for the next big change in the business of law, and you’ll get it here on The 1958 Lawyer.

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Marie Sarantakis: Sarantakis Law Group, LTD | THE 1958 LAWYER Podcast

Marie Sarantakis is the founder of Sarantakis Law Group, LTD. She is a best-selling author, a prominent family law attorney, nationally recognized divorce coach, and the president of Adrikos, LLC. In this episode, Marie talks about narcissism in divorce court cases and defines what it really means and how it differs from mere selfish behavior.

They also discussed how divorce coaches can give clients support beyond the courtroom as they are able to provide emotional support and a big picture analysis of the situation. Lastly, they talked about the benefits of the remote environment of the pandemic in law and how it could help with expanding your network.

Key moments:

  • Difference between a narcissist and a jerk (3:20)
  • Helping a client through being victimized by a narcissist (7:00)
  • Divorce coach and divorce attorneys (11:23)
  • Integrating technology and practicing networking( 17:00)

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MEMORABLE QUOTES

Marie Sarantakis

“You get divorced based on irreconcilable differences. Just because you married a bad person, doesn’t mean you actually get more in the divorce case.”

ABOUT MARIE SARANTAKIS

Marie Sarantakis, Founder of Sarantakis Law Group, LTD

Family Law

Marie Sarantakis is the founder of Sarantakis Law Group, LTD. She is a best-selling author, a prominent family law attorney, nationally recognized divorce coach, and the president of Adrikos, LLC.

Sarantakis Law Group, LTD.

Website: https://sarantakislaw.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SarantakisLaw/

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“The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” still defines the business of law…
It’s time for a change.

If you’re a lawyer, you’re familiar with the ABA article “The 1958 Lawyer and his 1938 Dollar” which gives our podcast its title, and its inspiration. That article was the start of the billable hour for law firms…And the last major change to the business of law, 70+ years ago now. Well, it’s past time for another change.

This podcast is all about bucking the status quo of the business of law. Your host Ron Bockstahler runs Amata Law Office Suites, providing law firms an alternative to the traditional fixed-cost business model that places unwanted stress on attorneys to work long hours that often-times lead to burn out, broken relationships and in many cases substance abuse. Each week he’ll discuss alternatives to the 12 hours days, endless rotation of clerks and paralegals, and the expensive offices leased to impress clients who rarely show up in person anymore. He’ll interview successful lawyers who are doing law differently, and finding a work-life balance while still running a successful firm.

Do you want to find a better way to run your law firm? It’s time for the next big change in the business of law, and you’ll get it here on The 1958 Lawyer.

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